Archive for the ‘Bible’ Category

"Elder Brothers" Burning the Bible Again

May 21, 2008

This is how Orthodox Judaic “elder brothers” treat Christians when they believe there will be no repercussions, in accordance with rabbinic ruling.

Orthodox Jewish youths burn New Testaments in Or Yehuda

The Associated Press

May 20, 2008

Orthodox Jews set fire to hundreds of copies of the New Testament in the latest act of violence against Christian missionaries in the Holy Land.

Or Yehuda Deputy Mayor Uzi Aharon said missionaries recently entered a neighborhood in the predominantly religious town of 34,000 in central Israel, distributing hundreds of New Testaments and missionary material.

After receiving complaints, Aharon said, he got into a loudspeaker car last Thursday and drove through the neighborhood, urging people to turn over the material to Jewish religious students who went door to door to collect it.

“The books were dumped into a pile and set afire in a lot near a synagogue,” he said.

The newspaper Maariv reported Tuesday that hundreds of yeshiva students took part in the book-burning. But Aharon told The Associated Press that only a few students were present, and that he was not there when the books were torched.

“Not all of the New Testaments that were collected were burned, but hundreds were,” he said.

He said he regretted the burning of the books, but called it a commandment to burn materials that urge Jews to convert.

“I certainly don’t denounce the burning of the booklets, he said. I denounce those who distributed the booklets.”

Jews worship from the Old Testament, including the Five Books of Moses and the writings of the ancient prophets. Christians revere the Old Testament as well as the New Testament, which contains the ministry of Jesus.

Calev Myers, an attorney who represents Messianic Jews, or Jews who accept Jesus as their savior, demanded in an interview with Army Radio that all those involved be put on trial. He estimated there were 10,000 Messianic Jews, who are also known as Jews for Jesus, in Israel.

Police had no immediate comment.

Israeli authorities and Orthodox Jews frown on missionary activity aimed at Jews, though in most cases it is not illegal. Still, the concept of a Jew burning books is abhorrent to many in Israel because of the association with Nazis torching piles of Jewish books during the Holocaust of World War II.

Earlier this year, the teenage son of a prominent Christian missionary was seriously wounded when a package bomb delivered to the family’s West Bank home went off in his hands.

Last year, arsonists burst into a Jerusalem church used by Messianic Jews and set the building on fire, raising suspicions that Jewish extremists were behind the attack. No one claimed responsibility, but the same church was burned down 25 years ago by ultra-Orthodox Jewish extremists.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/985362.html

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"Elder Brothers" Burning the Bible Again

May 21, 2008

This is how Orthodox Judaic “elder brothers” treat Christians when they believe there will be no repercussions, in accordance with rabbinic ruling.

Orthodox Jewish youths burn New Testaments in Or Yehuda

The Associated Press

May 20, 2008

Orthodox Jews set fire to hundreds of copies of the New Testament in the latest act of violence against Christian missionaries in the Holy Land.

Or Yehuda Deputy Mayor Uzi Aharon said missionaries recently entered a neighborhood in the predominantly religious town of 34,000 in central Israel, distributing hundreds of New Testaments and missionary material.

After receiving complaints, Aharon said, he got into a loudspeaker car last Thursday and drove through the neighborhood, urging people to turn over the material to Jewish religious students who went door to door to collect it.

“The books were dumped into a pile and set afire in a lot near a synagogue,” he said.

The newspaper Maariv reported Tuesday that hundreds of yeshiva students took part in the book-burning. But Aharon told The Associated Press that only a few students were present, and that he was not there when the books were torched.

“Not all of the New Testaments that were collected were burned, but hundreds were,” he said.

He said he regretted the burning of the books, but called it a commandment to burn materials that urge Jews to convert.

“I certainly don’t denounce the burning of the booklets, he said. I denounce those who distributed the booklets.”

Jews worship from the Old Testament, including the Five Books of Moses and the writings of the ancient prophets. Christians revere the Old Testament as well as the New Testament, which contains the ministry of Jesus.

Calev Myers, an attorney who represents Messianic Jews, or Jews who accept Jesus as their savior, demanded in an interview with Army Radio that all those involved be put on trial. He estimated there were 10,000 Messianic Jews, who are also known as Jews for Jesus, in Israel.

Police had no immediate comment.

Israeli authorities and Orthodox Jews frown on missionary activity aimed at Jews, though in most cases it is not illegal. Still, the concept of a Jew burning books is abhorrent to many in Israel because of the association with Nazis torching piles of Jewish books during the Holocaust of World War II.

Earlier this year, the teenage son of a prominent Christian missionary was seriously wounded when a package bomb delivered to the family’s West Bank home went off in his hands.

Last year, arsonists burst into a Jerusalem church used by Messianic Jews and set the building on fire, raising suspicions that Jewish extremists were behind the attack. No one claimed responsibility, but the same church was burned down 25 years ago by ultra-Orthodox Jewish extremists.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/985362.html

Christian Exegetes and "The Jews"

February 27, 2007

I have some questions for all Christian exegetes who have joined in the controversy of late surrounding “the Jews.”

Why do you associate Biblical scripture and prophesy pertaining to Jews from 2000 or more years ago to the people who today call themselves “Jews”?

What proof have you seen from any one of these people who today call themselves “Jews” that they’re true blood descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?

Don’t you think that basing matters of faith and religion which, in turn, affect nearly every other aspect of our lives upon something so flimsy as a person or group’s verbal claim to be “Jews” is irresponsible to put it lightly?

Why do you refer to the terrorist-founded, racial supremacist, Old Testament negating, anti-Christ nation founded by self-styled “Jews” as “Israel”?

Are you a thinking person or a parrot?

If you answered “thinking person” to the above question, why do you parrot the terms “Jews” and “Israel” in reference to people who have no legitimate claim to either title? Because they said so? If so, don’t you think that’s a very foolish thing to do? I think it is.

Can you see the confusion that you create and the pitfalls which await your readers and listeners due to your unquestioning acceptance of the completely unsubstantiated claims of self-styled “Jews”?

Is there a more direct and clear prophesy in the entire book of Apocalypse than 2;9 or 3;9?

Shouldn’t we then be anticipating a people who say they are “Jews” and are not but do lie.?

Are you aware that the Judaic tradition permits lying to non-Judaics? If so, then why do you take Judaics at their word when they call themselves “Jews” and “Israel”?

Would your religion fall apart if you found out that the people who call themselves “Jews” aren’t really Jews? If so, would you consider the possibility that you’ve, perhaps, invested more capital into the role of “the Jews” in your religion than is prudent to do?

Are you willing to leave it in God’s very capable hands to preserve a remnant of true, blood Israel for the fulfilment of His prophesy that may not be identifiable to you or even themselves? Or must you be able to see and touch some “Jews” for your faith to remain unshaken?

Do you think that your readers and listeners would benefit immensely if you made clearer distinctions and used more precise language in dealing with matters pertaining to the religion of the Old Testament and rabbinic Judaism; the Jews of the Bible, and the people who call themselves “Jews” 2000 years later?

Who benefits from sloppy distinctions in these areas?

Christian Exegetes and "The Jews"

February 27, 2007

I have some questions for all Christian exegetes who have joined in the controversy of late surrounding “the Jews.”

Why do you associate Biblical scripture and prophesy pertaining to Jews from 2000 or more years ago to the people who today call themselves “Jews”?

What proof have you seen from any one of these people who today call themselves “Jews” that they’re true blood descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?

Don’t you think that basing matters of faith and religion which, in turn, affect nearly every other aspect of our lives upon something so flimsy as a person or group’s verbal claim to be “Jews” is irresponsible to put it lightly?

Why do you refer to the terrorist-founded, racial supremacist, Old Testament negating, anti-Christ nation founded by self-styled “Jews” as “Israel”?

Are you a thinking person or a parrot?

If you answered “thinking person” to the above question, why do you parrot the terms “Jews” and “Israel” in reference to people who have no legitimate claim to either title? Because they said so? If so, don’t you think that’s a very foolish thing to do? I think it is.

Can you see the confusion that you create and the pitfalls which await your readers and listeners due to your unquestioning acceptance of the completely unsubstantiated claims of self-styled “Jews”?

Is there a more direct and clear prophesy in the entire book of Apocalypse than 2;9 or 3;9?

Shouldn’t we then be anticipating a people who say they are “Jews” and are not but do lie.?

Are you aware that the Judaic tradition permits lying to non-Judaics? If so, then why do you take Judaics at their word when they call themselves “Jews” and “Israel”?

Would your religion fall apart if you found out that the people who call themselves “Jews” aren’t really Jews? If so, would you consider the possibility that you’ve, perhaps, invested more capital into the role of “the Jews” in your religion than is prudent to do?

Are you willing to leave it in God’s very capable hands to preserve a remnant of true, blood Israel for the fulfilment of His prophesy that may not be identifiable to you or even themselves? Or must you be able to see and touch some “Jews” for your faith to remain unshaken?

Do you think that your readers and listeners would benefit immensely if you made clearer distinctions and used more precise language in dealing with matters pertaining to the religion of the Old Testament and rabbinic Judaism; the Jews of the Bible, and the people who call themselves “Jews” 2000 years later?

Who benefits from sloppy distinctions in these areas?

Judaism is Not the Religion of the Bible

February 17, 2007

From the book, Judaism and the Christian Predicament, written by Rabbi Ben Zion Boxer in 1966:

Pope Paul VI, in his Encyclical “Ecclesiam Suam,” pleaded for friendly relations between the Church and other faiths. Speaking of the Jews he said: “Then we see another circle around us. This too is vast in it’s extent, yet it is not so far away from us. It is made up of the men who above all adore the one, supreme God whom we too adore. We refer to the children, worthy of our affection and respect, of the Hebrew people, faithful to the religion we call that of the Old Testament.” 1

This is not an uncommon impression and one finds it sometimes among Jews as well as Christians–that Judaism is the religion of the Hebrew Bible. It is of course a fallacious impression. … whoever would seek to compare the classic Jewish tradition with the biblical world of faith and life would find some startling contrasts. … Much of what exists in Judaism is absent in the Bible, and much of what is in the Bible cannot be found in Judaism. (Page 59)

Judaism is not the religion of the Bible. (Page 159, emphasis in original)

1 The New York Times, August 11, 1964, p.21

Judaism is Not the Religion of the Bible

February 17, 2007

From the book, Judaism and the Christian Predicament, written by Rabbi Ben Zion Boxer in 1966:

Pope Paul VI, in his Encyclical “Ecclesiam Suam,” pleaded for friendly relations between the Church and other faiths. Speaking of the Jews he said: “Then we see another circle around us. This too is vast in it’s extent, yet it is not so far away from us. It is made up of the men who above all adore the one, supreme God whom we too adore. We refer to the children, worthy of our affection and respect, of the Hebrew people, faithful to the religion we call that of the Old Testament.” 1

This is not an uncommon impression and one finds it sometimes among Jews as well as Christians–that Judaism is the religion of the Hebrew Bible. It is of course a fallacious impression. … whoever would seek to compare the classic Jewish tradition with the biblical world of faith and life would find some startling contrasts. … Much of what exists in Judaism is absent in the Bible, and much of what is in the Bible cannot be found in Judaism. (Page 59)

Judaism is not the religion of the Bible. (Page 159, emphasis in original)

1 The New York Times, August 11, 1964, p.21