Pius XII, Bishop Williamson Media Controversies are Theatre for Peasants, No Impediment to ‘Dialogue’

For all his insight, the author will not acknowledge that the rabbis bluff when they threaten to withdraw from ‘dialogue’–the vehicle by which their nefarious goals against the Church are advanced–or that the rabbis’ helpers in the establishment press have interests other than selling newspapers.

Exaggerations for Dubious Ends

Edward Pentin – NCR

Friday, January 22, 2010

After a week in which Pope Benedict XVI visited the Great Synagogue of Rome and the Vatican and the Rabbinate of Israel held their regular annual meeting, Catholic-Jewish relations are looking considerably healthy – much more so than it might appear in some of the mass media.

As mentioned in an earlier post, whatever the controversies affecting the dialogue, relations usually continue much as they did before, largely thanks – as the Holy Father noted in his synagogue address – to advances in dialogue emanating from the Second Vatican Council’s declaration Nostra Aetate.

Rabbi David Rosen, director of the American Jewish Committee’s Department for Interreligious Affairs, called the Pope’s visit to Rome’s synagogue “a genuine milestone, putting many fears and suspicions to rest and reinvigorating the historic transformation of this relationship in our times.” He noted what he called a warm, impressive and festive atmosphere which he said was a “public expression of already well established friendships between Catholic and Jewish leadership present.”

Of course, the well trodden controversies over Pius XII, Richard Williamson and the Good Friday prayer of the Traditional Latin Mass have, rightly or wrongly, been of real concern to many Jews. Yet their real impact on dialogue is actually minor. During this week’s bilateral commission between the Vatican and Rabbinate of Israel – a meeting that included a number of very senior Judaic and Church leaders – the dispute over Pius was never raised. More important were the areas the two faiths hold in common.

“These controversies are important for the mass media, but not for our dialogue,” said Father Norbert Hoffman, the Secretary of the Vatican Commission on Religious Relations with Judaism. ”We didn’t talk about the Pius matter at all during this [commission] meeting. Of course this issue exists but it doesn’t exist in the sense that the media think it would be on the table.” He added the final assessment of the delegation of the Chief Rabbinate was that the Pope’s visit to the synagogue was “very successful.”

Earlier this week, the [Judaic advocate of dungeon sentences for non-believers of “Holocaust” dogmas who is located in France], Bernard-Henri Lévy, denounced what he said were media caricatures of Benedict XVI and Pius XII in their dealings with Jews, saying their words and deeds belied their media portrayals.

All of which further points to what many have long suspected: that certain individuals and groups, not only within the mass media but elsewhere, are sadly exaggerating and exploiting Catholic-Jewish differences to suit their own ends, whether it be to sell newspapers or, more seriously, for a variety of nefarious goals directed against the Church.



4 Responses to “Pius XII, Bishop Williamson Media Controversies are Theatre for Peasants, No Impediment to ‘Dialogue’”

  1. Steve in Vista Says:

    Warning from the early Church – Two saints APOSTATES — ACCORDING TO St. Irenaeus of Lugdunum, Gaul (modern Lyons, France) – 180 A.D. "Those nations however, who did not of themselves raise up their eyes unto heaven, nor returned thanks to their Maker, nor wished to behold the light of truth, but who were like blind mice concealed in the depths of ignorance, the word justly reckons “as waste water from a sink, and as the turning-weight of a balance—in fact, as nothing [such as modern American and European societies, amongst others];” That before the Lord’s appearance Satan never dared to blaspheme God, inasmuch as he did not yet know his own sentence, because it was contained in parables and allegories; but that after the Lord’s appearance, when he had clearly ascertained from the words of Christ and His apostles that eternal fire has been prepared for him as he apostatized from God of his own free-will, and likewise for all who unrepentant continue in the apostasy, he now blasphemes, by means of such men, the Lord who brings judgment [upon him] as being already condemned, and imputes the guilt of his apostasy to his Maker, not to his own voluntary disposition. Just as it is with those who break the laws, when punishment overtakes them: they throw the blame upon those who frame the laws, but not upon themselves. In like manner do those men, filled with a satanic spirit, bring innumerable accusations against our Creator, who has both given to us the spirit of life, and established a law adapted for all; and they will not admit that the judgment of God is just. Wherefore also they set about imagining some other Father who neither cares about nor exercises a providence; and there is therefore in this beast (the Antichrist), when he comes, a recapitulation made of all sorts of iniquity and of every deceit, in order that all apostate power, flowing into and being shut up in him, may be sent into the furnace of fire. Fittingly, therefore, shall his name possess the number six hundred and sixty-six, since he sums up in his own person all the commixture of wickedness which took place previous to the deluge, due to the apostasy of the angels. For Noah was six hundred years old when the deluge came upon the earth, sweeping away the rebellious world, for the sake of that most infamous generation which lived in the times of Noah. And [Antichrist] also sums up every error of devised idols since the flood, together with the slaying of the prophets and the cutting off of the just. For that image which was set up by Nebuchadnezzar had indeed a height of sixty cubits, while the breadth was six cubits; on account of which Ananias, Azarias, and Misaël, when they did not worship it, were cast into a furnace of fire, pointing out prophetically, by what happened to them, the wrath against the righteous which shall arise towards the [time of the] end. For that image, taken as a whole, was a prefiguring of this man’s coming, decreeing that he should undoubtedly himself alone be worshipped by all men. Thus, then, the six hundred years of Noah, in whose time the deluge occurred because of the apostasy, and the number of the cubits of the image for which these just men were sent into the fiery furnace, do indicate the number of the name of that man in whom is concentrated the whole apostasy of six thousand years [from Adam until Christ], and unrighteousness, and wickedness, and false prophecy, and deception; for which things’ sake a cataclysm of fire shall also come [upon the earth]." Our Lord Jesus Christ doesn't care how many OFFICIAL degrees you claim, if you lie against Him, you are none of His. It does not matter how many Popes, Patriarchs etc. ad nauseam you have with you (or you are with them) on your broad way to hell. Since the mania of Vatican II Ecumenism, the biggest single coverup of apostasy is the claim to OFFICIAL church approval. St. Athanasius contra-mundum was beset by practically the whole OFFICIAL church. They were Arian heretics. St. Athanasius was right and the OFFICIAL church was wrong.

  2. Mike Says:

    Steve in Vista: Not sure you understand the article. Seems to me it's not about apostasy but about those who, because they hate the Church, would prefer Catholics and Jews were constantly at war with each other. True ecumenism doesn't mean compromise or deception, though of course for some liberals it does.

  3. Steve in Vista Says:

    "Not sure you understand the article." You aren't sure. You should be sure of yourself before voicing comments. And vain attempts at snide down the side of nose "comments" are worthy of the Zionists only. Juvenile Zionists at that.* * *"Seems to me it's not about apostasy…" It is about the apostasy that the Jews have exhibited for thousands of years and the Vatican II Partisans of Error lead by Benediktos in total blasphemous opposition to the very revelation of the only Messiah, Jesus Christ, of God Himself.* * * "…but about those who, because they hate the Church, would prefer Catholics and Jews were constantly at war with each other." Your snide affrontery to the rebukes of Our Lord Jesus Christ to the apostate and blasphemous Jews are very Talmudically apparent in this absurd comment. It is the Jews who are at war with Christ and his church. This is most obvious in the genocide over the decades waged by the Jews against the rightful inhabitants of the Holy Land, the Christians and Muslims from the beginning; that is what stands out most poignantly in this plea. There is nothing in the racist anti-God and anti-Christ actions of the Jews that is other than abominable. Your spurious tone makes out that the Christians who don't buckle to the obscene, vile, filthy murder and pillage and degradation of the Palestinians by the Jews are to be blamed for not being politically correct and sycophantically given over to approving the vile assaults by the Jews upon the faith that is in Christ and upon the Palestinians. They are to be lauded for not giving in to quisling apostate groveling before the enemies of God and his Christ. * * *"True ecumenism doesn't mean compromise or deception, though of course for some liberals it does." Distracting references to liberal or conservative are only to promote the lie that would have us believe one can be "Trad" or "Novo" and it is all one big happy family. It is not. The current Vatican and Benediktos and the Jews who own and operate the false church of the child molester, idolatrous, abortionist, genocidist promoting liars against the truth, are NOT Catholic, they are NOT Christian, There is no such thing as "true ecumenism" except the fact that the invention of Vatican II and the use of that term "ecumenism" means total rejection of God for pagan infidelity. The smoke and mirrors game of making a big deal out of Pius XII and the Williamson affair is to simply make everyone be "nice" and go along with the modern teserea and libellus of apostasy of accepting this "dialogue" as anything other than what it is. It is nothing but denying Christ and faith in him and worshipping false gods. To give it any credence is to deny Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.The Lord Jesus Christ said:Mt.10: 32 Every one therefore that shall confess me before men, I will also confess him before my Father who is in heaven. 33 But he that shall deny me before men, I will also deny him before my Father who is in heaven.Both St. Irenaeus and St. Athanasius stood against the "ecumenism" of their day, Gnosticism and Arianism respectively, as what it is: apostasy of the Devil and absolutely Antichrist and damned forever. The exhortation of their teaching and actions is to warn us to reject the same thing absolutely. Otherwise, the fire of eternal damnation awaits the cowards who will not stand for the truth. The early martyrs understood this and acted accordingly. They would not bow before nor would they worship the false gods, nor would they compromise with apostate Judaism at all.

  4. truth seeker Says:

    "the Jews against the rightful inhabitants of the Holy Land, the Christians and Muslims from the beginning"the Christians and Muslims are the rightful inhabitants of the Holy Land…please explain this creative view of history and the Bible…

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